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Jenny Shank's avatar

You are a true ham-and-egger--the kind of writer I wrote about in an essay for Poets & Writers several years back:

https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?id=GALE%7CA247445580&sid=googleScholar&v=2.1&it=r&linkaccess=abs&issn=08916136&p=LitRC&sw=w&userGroupName=anon%7E850c8614

I think moving to Pasadena was a good choice--you had to try it! And it doesn't seem like there's any answer to achieving readership/book/film sales. Writing is definitely a vocation that requires you not to look for external validation. I think you're doing great, and you've helped a lot of people along the way.

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Colette Sartor's avatar

I agree -- the move to Pasadena was the right one. I know I say that for partially selfish reasons because I adore you and am so happy to have you as a friend, but I also say it because I think you're incredibly talented, both as a fiction writer and a screenwriter and because you are one of the hardest working writers I know.

And Jenny -- I remember your ham-and-egger essay so well! I've often assigned it to my students. What a fantastic reminder it is that being a good writer is all about keeping your head down and doing the work. In fact, I think I need to go back and read it right now.

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Thank you! I didn't think anybody still read it because it never appeared on the Poets & Writers website. I have it loaded onto my website (which P&W allowed me to do after 3 months) but I don't think that many people wander over there. Thank you for sharing it with your students.

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Colette Sartor's avatar

It’s really wonderful!

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Glenn Gers's avatar

After 50 years devoted to creative writing and film and suchlike stuff, I truly believe that measuring "success" by external markers like which publisher you had to how many tickets you sold or how much money you made is suicidally missing the point of art and life. I keep thinking about the bestselling novelist of 1913 and the big hit opera of 1851...who the hell knows or cares? Or the big-budget movies every year that don't work. Or the TV series no on watches. People work so hard on them (or hate doing them, for that check...) And even Shakespeare and Joyce and Hemingway: how relevant are they now, really? Not to say they're not great, just: who the hell made this a test?! Who made it a competition?! Do things you think are good. Show 'em to however many people will look at them. Repeat. That's all any artist can do, and I think it's so great you've done it and keep doing it.

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Arnie Bernstein's avatar

Smart and funny memoir--and in light of the ongoing writers strike, your conversation with the grizzled Hollywood veteran really hits home.

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Barbara Shoup's avatar

Thank you for this.

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Terry's avatar

Wow. My dream is to move to California and write feature movies. I’m a few years older than you, a woman, so I guess that makes it as likely as getting hired to write on Mars. I’ve written short form humor for a while and during the pandemic I took online screenwriting classes. I fell in love with the form. I finally had a script I felt was good enough to enter into contests just this year. Like you, I spent a ton of money on entry fees. I’ve gotten some positive outcomes so far, but the major contests like Nicholls don’t announce finalists until later on in the year.

Perhaps I can write screenplays from my home in Pennsylvania. But I’ve lived on the same suburban cul-de-sac for 25 years and some days I feel desperate for a change.

I can’t decide if I should take your essay as a warning or encouragement. But I have to think anytime we go after our dream, it's never a mistake.

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Terry's avatar

Fingers crossed! Thanks for your thoughts!

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Deep State's avatar

You made it happen! That is huge. Imagine if you hadn't moved and regretted it, or wondered, what if...?

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Laura Durnell ♿️ ♀️'s avatar

What you did took a lot of courage, and I thank you for this vulnerable and honest post. I believe in you. One of my friends is an actor, and he had to take a break because of how shitty the industry is. He hasn't acted in years, which is a shame because he's immensely talented. If anyone can succeed, it's you, Christine.

If you and Adam have HBO Max and you haven't watched the series BARRY, I recommend you check it out. It's a dark comedy set in Hollywood, and the past two seasons have been especially dark. This one most of all. I do think you would appreciate the character Sally's story.

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Laura Durnell ♿️ ♀️'s avatar

I'm sorry you didn't like "ronny/lilly." I thought that episode was great. He won a DGA for it. He's uber-talented and is one of my manyl celebrity boyfriends. My friend Katie said I have so many celebrity boyfriends that she can't keep track.

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Laura Durnell ♿️ ♀️'s avatar

He's a Midwesterner like us. That goes without saying. : ) Great storyteller and definitely an auteur. His dad grew-up in Rogers Park and was raised Roman Catholic. I definitely saw that influence in the latest BARRY episode though the "peace be with you" rite was sorely outdated. This final season is dark. Sarah Goldberg, the actor who plays Sally Reed, described it as a drama with some jokes.

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Pamela Leavey's avatar

I moved to L.A. from small town coastal Massachusetts in Jan 1990 with a soon to be ex and 8 month old baby. I had no aspirations to be in the industry, he worked in construction. Almost all of my long time friends there work in the industry. Mostly acting and writing and all have real jobs.

I really enjoyed your essay. Your struggles breaking into the industry are not unlike other stories I have heard from friends. The pandemic has made it difficult for everyone. I am back home in coastal Mass, since 2009. Sometimes I wonder why I left L.A. but I am at home where I grew up, and it's a quieter life.

Follow your heart. You followed your heart when you moved to L.A. It will lead you in the right direction. I hope to read more from you on this...

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Pamela Leavey's avatar

When I was working on my Creative Writing M.A. a few years ago a family member asked what I was going to do with that. I responded write and she made a face. I get it. I get all of it. We write because we must. We follow our heart into uncharted places because we must. And yes, you can always go home. When I was ready to come home, I did. It took me almost 20 years of L.A..

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Pamela Leavey's avatar

Publishing has been very elusive for me. I keep trying!

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Ann Douglas's avatar

I love the honesty of this post. Thanks for writing it.

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Rita Dragonette's avatar

Sending a hug--feels like you need one.

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The Crazy Cat Lady Writes's avatar

*waves from Chicago

HI! 😄

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Staci Greason's avatar

This beautiful honest vulnerable essay brought tears to my eyes, Christine. I understand that hope toil yearning and heartbreak only too well. And I, among many, consider myself so fortunate that you moved to LA. To live the life you want to live in the face of whatever obstacle is true strength. Which is another name for real happiness. Keep making your art! Please.

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